BEAR TRACKS AAA In Season Edition 2 – January 9, 2020
New Messages:
1. Please review your team and provide needed corrections.
2.
Format Enhancements:
1. A new feature has been added called “SIGNIFICANT MATCHES”. We are looking for matches that will have an impact on rankings. Ranked and STQ wrestlers losing matches mainly. Input is greatly needed on this one.
2. I have on good authority that some wrestlers will be down to the weight class they are currently ranked this week, despite competing up one weight class now.
3. When you see a wrestler’s grade followed by /// and a weight, this indicates that the word on the street is they are going down to the weight class listed. See 220 and 285 below.
4. Some weight classes have their STQs transitioned into the Ranked section already. This will be an ongoing goal for each weight class. 106 is there now.
5. Some weight classes have the designation “STQ & UP”. This happens when a wrestler from the “Pack” defeats a returning STQ. The STQ & UP will be maintained until further intel is gathered.
6. Another new feature has been added at the end of the rankings report called “TRACKING”. This is where returning place winners and STQ are placed until they appear in their school’s scores and their weight class is known. Once found, they will be ranked.
7. In AAA, a forfeit section has been added for each weight class. This is located below the PACK wrestlers. This is ongoing.
8. Once more bracketed tournament begin, a better feel for wrestlers’ weight classes will be known.
9. YOUR INPUT IS WANTED!!!!!
Guidelines:
1. Wrestlers begin the preseason ranked based on how they finished at the previous state tournament.
2. Incoming freshman begin the season unranked.
3. The basis of the Bear tracks ranking system is “To be the man, you have to beat the man”.
4. Each weight class will begin divided into three sub categories. During the preseason, the “ranked” wrestlers will be only returning state place winners. The “STQ” will be returning state tournament qualifiers that did not place. The “Pack” will be all incoming freshmen and NON-STQs.
5. Added feature for 2019/2020. The returning STQs will be ranked based on wins and losses at the state tournament. A wrestler that went 1-2 will be ranked higher than a wrestler that went 0-2.
6. During the preseason, wrestlers will be assigned to their given weight class based on Super 32 registration, the highly reliable tool known as “Word on the Street” and the newly created quantitative programs developed by the Bear Tracks Analytics Team.
7. Any head to head WV vs WV matches that take place at Super 32 will be used to adjust rankings.
8. By popular demand, the wrestler’s grade will now be recognized on their resume.
9. Wrestlers will be recognized as follows: Name/School/State Placement/Region/Grade/Source. The source is one of the three topics listed above in guideline 6.
10. In the beginning, rankings will be created on the best available information and updated as information becomes accessible.
106 Ranked
1. Lyles/Huntington/4th in state/R4/Sr
2. Dolan, Matthew/Spring Mills/NA/R2/Fr
3. Roberts/Parkersburg South/NA/R4/Fr
4. Miller/Parkersburg South/STQ 2-2 in state/R4/Sr
5.
106 SIGNIFICANT MATCHES
1. Roberts over Miller
2. Stewart over Oxley
3. Atkins over Oxley
4. Dolan over Roberts
5.
106 STQ & UP
1 Stewart/Cabell-Midland/NA/R4/Fr
2 Atkins/St. Albans/NA/R3/So
3 Oxley/University/STQ 1&2 in state/R1/So
4
106 Pack
1. Stoey/Musselman/NA/R2/??
2. Saxon/Washington/NA/R2/Fr
3.
4.
5. Sergeant/Riverside/NA/R3/Fr
6. Velas/Wheeling Park/NA/R1/Fr
7.
8. Cook/John Marshall/NA/R1/??
9. Sowder/Spring Valley/NA/R4??
10. Angellozi/Brooke/NA/R1/??
11.
12. Radford/Woodrow Wilson/NA/R3/??
13. Eltringham/Brooke/NA/R1/??
14. Roche/Hurricane/NA/R4
15. ??????/Princeton/R3
16. Spohn/Morgantown/NA/R1/??
17. Martin/Greenbrier East/NA/R3/Fr
106 Forfeits
1. Preston County/R1
2.
3. South Charleston/R3
4. Jefferson/R2
5. Hedgesville/R2
6. Parkersburg/R4
7. Ripley/R4
8. BuckUp/R1
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10.
113 Ranked
1. Dolan/Spring Mills/State Champion/R2/Jr
2. Tachoir/Martinsburg/Runner Up/R2/So
3. Cochran/John Marshall/3rd in state/R1/So
4. Taggart/Wheeling Park/5th in state/So
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6.
113 SIGNIFICANT MATCHES
1. Ford over Cox
2. Ford over Talley
3. Dolan over Ford
4. Bartley over Talley
5. Talley over Cox
6.
113 STQ & UP
1. Wilson/BuckUp/STQ 1&2 in state/R1/So
2. Ford/Parkersburg South/NA/R4/Fr
3. Bartley/Cabell Midland/NA/R4/Fr
4. Talley/Hurricane/NA/R4/Fr
5. Cox/Ripley/STQ 0-2 in state/R4/Jr
113 Pack
1. Anderson/Musselman/NA/R2
2.
3. Ash/St. Albans/NA/R3
4. Bowen/Spring Valley/NA/R4
5. Tschappat/John Marshall/NA/R1
6. Shiley/Washington/NA/R2/Fr
7.
8. Lucas/Woodrow Wilson/NA/R3/??
9. Yost/Brooke/NA/R1/??
10.
11. Johnson/Riverside/NA/R3/??
12. Bowen/Spring Valley/NA/R4/??
13. Cantwell/Parkersburg/NA/R4/So
14. St. Clair/Huntington/NA/R4/Fr
15. Moats/Preston County/NA/R1/??
113 Forfeits
1.
2. Hedgesville/R2
3. Jefferson/R2
4. Greenbrier East/R3
5. Buck Up/R1
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120 Ranked
1. Donahue/Parkersburg/Runner Up/R4/Sr
2. Shelek/Wheeling Park/State Champion/R1/So
3. Wilkins/Preston County/STQ 1&2 in state/R1/Sr
4. Haskins/Ripley/6th in state/R4/So
5. Easton/Parkersburg South/Runner Up/R4/Jr
6. Gray/John Marshall/6th in state/R1/Sr
7. Slack/Riverside/6th in state/R3/So
120 SIGNIFICANT MATCHES
1. Wilkins over Cochran
2. Cochran over Haskins
3. Haskins over Easton
4. Easton over Slack
5. Donahue over Shelek
6.
120 STQ
1. Martinez/Greenbrier East/STQ 0-2 in state/So
120 Pack
1. Holt/Cabell Midland/NA/R4/??
2. Pontier/St. Albans/NA/R3/??
126 Ranked
1. Locke/Washington/Runner Up/R2/Jr
2. Viars/Huntington/5th in state/R4/Sr
3. Jones/Parkersburg South/NA/R4/Fr
4. Spradling/St. Albans/STQ 2-2 in state/R3/So
5. Miller/Ripley/STQ 2-2 in state/R4/Jr
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126 SIGNIFICANT MATCHES
1. Jones over Miller
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3.
126 STQ & UP
1. Salmons/Cabell Midland/STQ 1&2 in state/R4/Sr
2. Weitz/Martinsburg/STQ 0&2 in state/R2/So
3. Harper/Spring Valley/STQ 0-0 in state/R4/Sr
126 Pack
1. Stockett/University/NA/R1/??
2.
132 Ranked
1. Johnson/South/State Champion/R4/Jr
2. (tie) Hardy/Washington/3rd in state/R2/Jr
2. (tie) Hobbs/BuckUp/3rd in state/R1/Jr
3. Staud/University/4th in state/R1/Sr
4. Mullins/Greenbrier East/4th in state/Sr
5. Hartley/George Washington/STQ 1&2 in state/R3/Jr
6. Carmen/John Marshall/5th in state/R1/So/Word on the street
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8.
132 SIGNIFICANT MATCHES
1. Hobbs over Carmen
2. Carmen over Viars
3. Carmen over Osbourne
4. Staud over Ramirez
5. Hartley over Carmen
6. Johnson over Staud
7. Nolte over Riffle
8. Carmen over Osbourne
9. Osborne over Ramirez
10. Johnson over Osbourne
11.
132 STQ & UP
1. Osborne/Woodrow Wilson/NA/R3/Fr
2. Ramirez/Riverside/STQ 1-2 in state/R3/So
3. Daugherty/George Washington/STQ 1&2 in state/R3/So/Word on the street
4. Nolte/Wheeling Park/NA/R1/??
5. Riffle/Preston County/STQ )&2 in state/R1/Jr
132 Pack
1. James/St. Albans/NA/R3/??
2. Meachum/Princeton/NA/R3/Jr/Super 32
3. Serrano/Huntington/NA/R4/????/Super 32
4. Chapman/Huntington/NA/R4/Fr/Super 32
5.
138 Ranked
1 Miller/Musselman/State Champion/R2/Sr
2. Shelek/Wheeling Park/Runner Up/R1/Sr
3. Molar/Parkersburg/Runner Up/R4/Sr
3.
4.
5.
138 SIGNIFICANT MATCHES
1. Miller over Shelek
2. Irizarry over Herndon
3. Shelek over Molar
138 STQ & UP
1. Thatcher/John Marshall/STQ 2-2 in state/R1/Sr/Word on the street
2. Irizarry/Parkersburg South/NA/R4/Sr
3. Herndon/Spring Mills/STQ 2-2 in state/R2/So/Word on the street
4. Cosner/Musselman/STQ 0-2 in state/R2/So/Word on the street
138 Pack
1. Volpe/St. Albans/NA/R3/??
2.
145 Ranked
1. Quiocho/South/State Champion/R4/Jr
2. Mitchell/Wheeling Park/3rd in state/R1/Jr
3. (tie) Pearson/BuckUp/6th in state/R1/Jr
3. (tie) Dempsey, G/Huntington/6th in state/R4/Sr
145 SIGNIFICANT MATCHES
1. Quiocho over Jackson
2. Taylor over Hoover
3. Jackson over Holstion
4. Taylor over Holstion
5.
145 STQ & UP
1. Jackson/Spring Mills/NA/R2/Fr
2. Stine/Washington/STQ 2-2 in state/R2/Jr/Word on the street
3. Taylor/Hurricane/STQ 1&2 in state/R4/Sr
4. Holstion/Riverside/STQ 2&2 in state/R3/So
5. Stewart/St. Albans/STQ 1-2 in state/R3/Sr/Word on the street
6. Hoover/Greenbrier East/STQ 1-2 in state/R3/Jr
7. (tie) Edwards/Parkersburg/STQ 0-2 in state/R4/So
7. (tie) Perry, Brock/Capital/STQ 0-2 in state/R3/Sr/Word on the street
145 Pack
1.
2
152 Ranked
1. Roberts/South/State Champion/R4/Sr/Super 32
2. Inboden/Parkersburg/NA/R4/Sr
3. Gooch/Wheeling Park/5th in state/R1/Jr
152 SIGNIFICANT MATCHES
1. Inboden over Gooch
2.
152 STQ
1.
2. Meizenzahl/Washington/STQ 1-2 in state/So/Word on the street
3. (tie) Acker/Musselman/STQ 0-2 in state/R2/Sr/Analytics Team
3. (tie) McCardle/John Marshall/STQ 0-2 in state/R1/So/Word on the street
3. (tie) Salinas/Martinsburg/STQ 0-2 in state/R2/Sr/Word on the street
3. (tie) Dodson/Spring Mills/STQ 0-2 in state/R2/Jr/Word on the street
3. (tie) Koontz/Ripley/STQ 0-2 in state/R4/So/Word on the street
152 Pack
1.
2. Barker/Riverside/NA/R3/Sr
3. Piner/Greenbrier East/NA/R3/Jr
4. Morris/St. Albans/NA/R3/??
160 Ranked
1. Best/Parkersburg/State Champion/R4/Sr
2. Welker/Wheeling Park/5th in state/R1/Sr
3.
160 SIGNIFICANT MATCHES
1. Childers over Brannon
2. Wellings-Osha over Taylor
160 STQ
1. (tie ) Resch/Martinsburg/STQ 2-2 in state/R2/Sr/Word on the street
1. (tie) Zimmerman/Greenbrier East/STQ 2-2 in state/R3/Sr/Word on the street
2. (tie) Childers/Parkersburg South/STQ 1-2 in state/R4/So
2. (tie) Wellings-Osha/University/STQ 1-2 in state/R1/So/Word on the street
2. (tie) McCray/George Washington/STQ 1-2 in state/R3/Sr/Analytics Team
2. (tie) Neal/Princeton/STQ 1-2 in state/R3/Sr/Word on the street
2. (tie) Bentley/Musselman/STQ 1-2 in state/R2/So/Word on the street
2. (tie) Weaver/Woodrow Wilson/STQ 1-2 in state/R3/Sr/Word on the street
3. Brannon/Spring Mills/1-2 in state/R2/Sr
4. (tie) Taylor/Cabell Midland/STQ 0&2 in state/R4/So
4. (tie) Paugh/Ripley/STQ 0-2 in state/R4/Sr/Word on the street
160 Pack
1. Fernatt/St. Albans/NA/R3/??
2.
170 Ranked
1. Smithson/BuckUp/Runner Up/R1/Sr
2. (tie) Dempsey, AJ/Huntington/4th in state/R4/Jr
2. (tie) Neale/Cabell Midland/4th in state/R4/Sr
3. Nixon/Wheeling Park/5th in state/R1/So
4. (tie) Swick/Musselman/6th in state/R2/Sr/Word on the street
4. (tie) Stone/George Washington/6th in state/R3/Jr
170 STQ
1. (tie) Somerville/Parkersburg South/STQ 2-2 in state/R4/Sr
1. (tie) Miller/University/STQ 2-2 in state/R1/Jr/Word on the street
1. (tie) Camilletti/Brooke/STQ 2-2 in state/R1/Sr
2. (tie) Logan/Martinsburg/ STQ 1-2 in state/R2/Sr/Word on the street
2. (tie) Creasy/Woodrow Wilson/STQ 1-2 in state/R3/Jr/Word on the street
170 Pack
1. Quinn/Greenbrier East/NA/R3/Sr/Word on the street
2. Foster/St. Albans/NA/R3/???
182 Ranked
1. Matthess/Parkersburg/STQ 2-2 in state/R4/Sr
2. Brothers/Wheeling Park/NA/R1/Fr
2.
182 SIGNIFICANT MATCHES
1. Brothers over Matthess
2. Matthess over Brothers
3.
182 STQ
1. (tie) Boggess/Ripley/STQ 2-2 in state/R4/Sr/Word on the street
1. (tie) Thomas/Greenbrier East/STQ 2-2 in state/R3/Sr/Word on the street
2. (tie) Wogan/Washington/STQ 1-2 in state/R2/Sr/Word on the street
2. (tie) Forrester/Martinsburg/STQ 1-2 in state/R2/Sr/Word on the street
2.
2. (tie) Stover/Capital/STQ 1-2 in state/R3/Sr/Word on the street
2. (tie) Lantz/Preston County/STQ 1-2 in state/Sr
(tie) Murray/University/STQ 0-2 in state/R1/Sr/Word on the street
3. (tie) Anderson/George Washington/STQ 0-2 in state/R3/So/Word on the street
3. (tie) McClure/John Marshall/STQ 0-2 in state/R1/So/Analytics Team
3. (tie) Murphy/Huntington/STQ 0-2 in state/R4/Jr/Word on the street
182 Pack
1. Edge/St. Albans/NA/R3/Fr
2.
3. Milburn, N/Spring Mills/NA/R2/So/Word on the street
195 Ranked
1. Bradbury/Washington/STQ 0-0 in state/4TH IN 2017/R2/Sr/INTERIM #1
2. (tie) Gregg/Preston County/STQ 2&2 in state/R1/Sr
2. (tie) Hunt/Cabell Midland/STQ 2-2 in state/R4/Sr
195 STQ
1. (tie) Hamrick/George Washington/STQ 1-2 in state/R3/Sr/Word on the street
2. (tie) Buckalew/Parkersburg South/STQ 1-2 in state/R4/Jr
3. (tie) Murphy/Huntington/STQ 0&2 in state/R4/Jr
3. (tie) Ramsey/Riverside/STQ 0-2 in state/Sr
4.
195 Pack
1. Allen/St. Albans/NA/R3/Fr
2.
220 Ranked
1. Amos/South/State Champion/R4/Sr
2. Dillon/Cabell Midland/Runner Up/R4/Sr
3. Saunders/University/6th in state/R1/Sr
220 SIGNIFICANT MATCHES
1. Tamburin over Bishoff
2. ????
220 STQ
1. Tamburin/Wheeling Park/STQ 1-2 in state/R1/Jr
2. Bishoff/Preston County/STQ 2&2 in state/R1/Jr
3. Lavely/Washington/STQ 1-2 in state/Jr/Word on the street
4.
220 Pack
1. Roy/St. Albans/NA/R3/??
2.
285 Ranked
1. Chapman/Riverside/Runner Up/R3/Sr
2. Lambert/Hampshire/3rd in state/R2/Sr
3. Milburn, Z/Spring Mills/STQ 2-2 in state/R2/Sr
4. Pomeroy/Woodrow Wilson/STQ 2-2 in state/Sr
285 SIGNIFICANT MATCHES
1. Chapman over Turney
2. Milburn over Pomeroy
3. Chapman over Pomeroy
4. Chapman over Milburn
5.
285 STQ
1. Mullet/George Washington/STQ 1-2 in state/R3/So
2. (tie) Stokes/St. Albans/STQ 0-2 in state/So
2. (tie) Turney/University/STQ 0-2 in state/So
2. (tie) Cutlip/BuckUp/STQ 0&2 in state/Sr
285 Pack
1. Stiffler/Woodrow Wilson/NA/R4/Sr/Analytics Team
2. Hendershot/Parkersburg South/NA/R4/Jr
3. Kilmer/Musselman/NA/R2/Sr
TRACKING
1. Pauley/University/STQ 2&2 in state/R1/Sr
2. Matson/Ripley/STQ 1&2 in state/R4/So
3. Mathess/Parkersburg/STQ 1&2 in state/R4/So
4. Davis/Musselman/STQ 0-2 in state/R2/So
5. Anderson/George Washington/STQ 0-2 in state/R3/Sr
6. Legg/Capital/STQ 0&2 in state/R3/So
7. Williams/Spring Mills/3rd in state/R2/So
8. Wentz/Riverside/STQ 1&2 in state/R3/So
9. Matthews/University/STQ 1&2 in state/R1/Sr
10. Harrison/St. Albans/STQ 0-2 in state/R3/So
11. Messer/St. Albans/STQ 0-2 in state/R3/Jr
12.
13. Browning/Greenbrier East/STQ 1-2 in state/R3/Sr
14. Hemp/Musselman/STQ 0&2 in state/R2/So
15. Bradbury/Washington/NA/R2/So
16. Vaughn/Cabell Midland/5th in state/R4/Jr
17. Wade/Parkersburg/4th in state/R4/Sr
18. Edens/St. Albans/STQ 0-2 in state/R3/Jr
19. Vickers/St. Albans/STQ 0-2 in state/Jr
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Bear Tracks AAA INseason - Edition 2
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Bear Tracks AAA INseason - Edition 2
Holy smokes. Braxton Amos works out with a landmine now!!!!!!
Re: Bear Tracks AAA INseason - Edition 2
WIMPY rankings. These aren't bear rankings, they are more like cubby or kitty cat rankings. We are nearly half over in the season and you only have weight classes half ranked with 3 or 4 wrestlers. Come on bearhugger, step up your game. I would expect the rankings to be ten deep by now. No one wants to see all these byes and forfeits in the rankings. Fill out the brackets. Are you doing your homework? (grin).
It's a good thing we got Winner's Choice coming up. West Virginia's first big tournament of the season
They are kind of like the Daytona of WV wrestling.
It's a good thing we got Winner's Choice coming up. West Virginia's first big tournament of the season
They are kind of like the Daytona of WV wrestling.
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Re: Bear Tracks AAA INseason - Edition 2
brentsams wrote:WIMPY rankings. These aren't bear rankings, they are more like cubby or kitty cat rankings. We are nearly half over in the season and you only have weight classes half ranked with 3 or 4 wrestlers. Come on bearhugger, step up your game. I would expect the rankings to be ten deep by now. No one wants to see all these byes and forfeits in the rankings. Fill out the brackets. Are you doing your homework? (grin).
It's a good thing we got Winner's Choice coming up. West Virginia's first big tournament of the season
They are kind of like the Daytona of WV wrestling.
We need more action to move people up!
Holy smokes. Braxton Amos works out with a landmine now!!!!!!
Re: Bear Tracks AAA INseason - Edition 2
I get it that the attempt Bearhugger is making is to make the rankings based more on "fact" and less on one person's "emotional opinion". However, as Brent has pointed out, unless one can create the match-ups to answer all the questions, it really limits the ability to attempt to paint a very complete picture. At some point, since the rankings are supposed to be a list of who is theoretically best in a certain order, some speculation is going to have to occur, unless the rankings are to be made after the State tournament has already been wrestled. Even then, some would dispute the accuracy of the results. Not being negative toward the attempt, just making an observation as Brent was doing. An example of the subjectivity is Brother vs. Mathess at 182lbs. Is the last to win in the driver's seat or are they actually the most likely to get beat the third time around? One way or the other some things will have to come down to one person's opinion.
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Re: Bear Tracks AAA INseason - Edition 2
KDunbar wrote:I get it that the attempt Bearhugger is making is to make the rankings based more on "fact" and less on one person's "emotional opinion". However, as Brent has pointed out, unless one can create the match-ups to answer all the questions, it really limits the ability to attempt to paint a very complete picture. At some point, since the rankings are supposed to be a list of who is theoretically best in a certain order, some speculation is going to have to occur, unless the rankings are to be made after the State tournament has already been wrestled. Even then, some would dispute the accuracy of the results. Not being negative toward the attempt, just making an observation as Brent was doing. An example of the subjectivity is Brother vs. Mathess at 182lbs. Is the last to win in the driver's seat or are they actually the most likely to get beat the third time around? One way or the other some things will have to come down to one person's opinion.
I think the only opinion I have interjected into these rankings is making Bradbury the "Interim #1 at 195". However, that opinion was based in logic. Mathess vs Brothers is a great situation. At the state tournament, whoever wins the last match is champ. During the season, whoever wins the last match is #1. Same logic.
Schedules facilitate and also hinder many needed head to head matches to make ranking easier. At the end of the day, you use the best information available.
A special thanks to all of those that provide feedback in terms of rosters and match results.
WV wrestling has the coaches' poll, Bear Tracks, TSFIP Rankings and who knows what is next. We will all figure it out.
Holy smokes. Braxton Amos works out with a landmine now!!!!!!
Re: Bear Tracks AAA INseason - Edition 2
Bearhugger wrote:brentsams wrote:WIMPY rankings. These aren't bear rankings, they are more like cubby or kitty cat rankings. We are nearly half over in the season and you only have weight classes half ranked with 3 or 4 wrestlers. Come on bearhugger, step up your game. I would expect the rankings to be ten deep by now. No one wants to see all these byes and forfeits in the rankings. Fill out the brackets. Are you doing your homework? (grin).
It's a good thing we got Winner's Choice coming up. West Virginia's first big tournament of the season
They are kind of like the Daytona of WV wrestling.
We need more action to move people up!
Or change your criteria. We want full rankings, not forfeits.
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Re: Bear Tracks AAA INseason - Edition 2
brentsams wrote:Bearhugger wrote:brentsams wrote:WIMPY rankings. These aren't bear rankings, they are more like cubby or kitty cat rankings. We are nearly half over in the season and you only have weight classes half ranked with 3 or 4 wrestlers. Come on bearhugger, step up your game. I would expect the rankings to be ten deep by now. No one wants to see all these byes and forfeits in the rankings. Fill out the brackets. Are you doing your homework? (grin).
It's a good thing we got Winner's Choice coming up. West Virginia's first big tournament of the season
They are kind of like the Daytona of WV wrestling.
We need more action to move people up!
Or change your criteria. We want full rankings, not forfeits.
I see so many forfeits in the scores, I have to rank them.
Holy smokes. Braxton Amos works out with a landmine now!!!!!!
Re: Bear Tracks AAA INseason - Edition 2
Again, want to make sure it is understood, I wasn't complaining or being negative, just making a comment. I like looking at these rankings and understand the logic behind them.
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