AA/A Bear Tracks - January 16th

[Bearhugger]

AA/A BEAR TRACKS – JANUARY 16th, 2019

WSAZ weekend!!!!! OVAC weekend!!!!! The Mountaineer Match Up will have some highly probably state finals previews too.

There are some very good wrestlers that are in "Pack" status that should do well this weekend. Some are not even listed because of potential weight class changes.

Important points:
1. PLEASE COMMENT WHERE THERE ARE RANKING DISCREPANICES. UNFORTUNATELY NOT ALL SCHOOLS POST SCORES.
2. Last season’s state place winners were given higher rankings to begin this season. Until they get defeated, they stay in the top five.
3. If you see two wrestlers for the same school listed under the same weight class, that is because they are both noteworthy and their final weight classes and status are not known. In addition, they have also placed in tournaments.
4. Some wrestlers have moved into the top five due to recent success in winning tournaments or still being undefeated despite not beating a previously ranked wrestler.
5. If a wrestler has yet to wrestle or is temporarily out, they have been dropped to the “Pack”.
6. Wrestlers who place in their respective tournaments will get entered into the Pack first. Others will follow in due time.
7. As always, turn in your scores, input, private messages, etc.
8. IF YOU SEE any discrepancies, then please advise and corrections will be made.
9. Thank you to all that have contributed from all forms of social media.



106 Ranked
1. Powell/Wirt County/5th in state/R4
2. Short/Point Pleasant/NA/R4
3. Casuccio/East Fairmont/NA/R1
4. Clere/Greenbrier West/STQ/R3
5. Allman/Grafton/STQ/R2
6. Barr/Oak Glen/STQ/R1

106 Pack
Bennett/Richwood/NA/R3
Bohn/Fairmont Senior/NA/R1
Burrell/Williamstown/NA/R4
Carpenter/Sissonville/NA/R4
Dempsey/Hoover/NA/R3
Freeman, M/Point Pleasant/NA/R4
Guy/Keyser/NA/R1
Henderson/Point Pleasant/NA/R4
Jenkins/RCB/NA/R2
Kuhns/Weir/NA/R1
Maynard/Man/NA/R4
McCune/Tyler Consolidated/NA/R1
Morgan/Liberty Harrison/NA/R2
Sanders/Independence/4th in state/R3
Shanan/Phillip Barbour/NA/R2
Sparks/Clay/NA/R2
Thomas/Nicholas/NA/R3
Triplett/Braxton County/NA/R2
Vanmeter/Petersburg/NA/R1
Wilson/Weir/NA/R1
Winter/Ravenswood/NA/R4

113 Ranked
1. Moore/Oak Glen/Runner up in state/R1
2. Boyer/East Fairmont/State Champion/R1
3. Smith/Point Pleasant/3rd in state/R4
4. Nazelrodt/Petersburg/STQ/R1
5. Poole/Wirt County/STQ/R4
6. Gilkerson/Independence/NA/R3
7. Harrison/Fairmont Senior/NA/R1
8. Blake/Lewis County/STQ/R2

113 Pack
Arbogast/Phillip Barbour/NA/R2
Atkins/Ravenswood/NA/R4
Brown/Webster Springs/NA/R3
Darby/Logan/NA/R4
Darnold/Ritchie County/NA/R1
Dempsey/Hoover/NA/R3
Hatfield/Man/NA/R4
Jenkins/RC Byrd/NA/R2
Johnson/Weir/NA/R1
Judge/Tyler Consolidated/NA/R1
Kesner/Keyser/NA/R1
Kirk/Midland Trail/NA/R3
Laulis/Lincoln/NA/R2
Lloyd/Doddridge/NA/R2
Pauley/Hoover/NA/R3
Richards/Roane/NA/R2
Sampson/Calhoun/NA/R4
Spragg/Paden City/NA/R1
Winnings/Greenbrier West/NA/R3

120 Ranked
1. Raike/Point Pleasant/NA/R4
2. Houser/St. Mary’s/Runner Up in state/R1
3. West/Oak Hill/5th in the state/R3
4. Teel/Herbert Hoover/6th in the state/R3
5. Parsons/Wirt County/NA/R4
6. Goode/Shady Spring/NA/R3
7. Layman/Ritchie County/STQ/R1
8. Whittington/Sissonville/STQ/R4
9. Long/Braxton County/STQ/R2

120 Pack
Carr/Magnolia/NA/R1
Cavendish/Nitro/NA/R4
Collins/Magnolia/NA/R1
Dean/Cameron/NA/R1
Heston/Lincoln/NA/R2
Hodges/Grafton/4th in state/R2
Johnson/Keyser/NA/R1
Kelley/Grafton/NA/R2
Lundy/Oak Glen/NA/R1
Mitchell/Lewis County/NA/R2
Tanner/Ravenswood/NA/R4
Tarley/Fairmont Senior/NA/R1
Varner/Oak Glen/NA/R1

126 Ranked
1. Bartee/Point Pleasant/NA/R4
2. Starkey/Bridgeport/NA/R2
3. Spaulding/Ritchie County/5th in state/R1
4. Jones/Fairmont Senior/NA/R1
5. Ray/Oak Glen/6th in the state/R1
6. Powell/Wirt County/STQ/R4
7. Wilson/North Marion/NA/R1
8. Conley/Weir/NA/R1
9. Ours/Petersburg/NA/R1

126 Pack
Ball/Cameron/NA/R1
Barnes/Liberty Harrison/STQ/R2
Beisel/Magnolia/NA/R1
Crowe/Berkeley Springs/NA/R1
Corbin/Hoover/NA/R3
Fazzolari/Nitro/NA/R4
Hickey/Keyser/NA/R1
Linzy/Shady Spring/NA/R3
Macek/Madonna/NA/R1
Newcomb/Ravenswood/NA/R4
Peck/South Harrison/STQ/R2
Powers.Doddridge/NA/R2
Price/Sissonville/NA/R4
Rogers/Clay/NA/R2
Rundle/East Fairmont/NA/R1
Slagle/Williamstown/NA/R4
Townsend/St. Mary’s/NA/R1



132 Ranked
1. Flint/East Fairmont/3rd in the state/R1
2. Dawson/Independence/Runner Up in state/R3
3. Smith/Point Pleasant/4th in state/R4
4. Bearden/North Marion/NA/R1
5. Burnside/Doddridge/NA/R2
6. Smith/Ravenswood/NA/R4
7. Brake/Nicholas County/NA/R3
8. Summers/Bridgeport/6th in the state/R2


132 Pack
Baldwin/Hoover/NA/R3
Burdette/Sissonville/STQ/R4
Childers/Liberty Harrison/NA/R2
Cochran/Doddridge/NA/R2
Dalton/Ritchie County/NA/R1
Darnold/Ritchie County/NA/R1
Fracasso/Keyser/NA/R1
Garrett/Wirt County/STQ/R4
Hazelett/Nitro/STQ/R4
Moore/Clay/NA/R2
Morris/Berkeley Springs/NA/R1
Nutter/Greenbrier West/STQ/R3
Oldaker/Lewis County/NA/R2
Price/Shady Spring/STQ/R3
Reynolds/Lincoln/NA/R2
Richardson/Fairmont Senior/NA/R1
Rodgers/Cameron/NA/R1
Roush/Bridgeport/NA/R2
Saunders/Roane/NA/R2
Shumaker/Grafton/NA/R2
Weese/Moorefield/NA/R2
White/St. Mary’s/NA/R1
Wills/Weir/NA/R1
Wolford/Petersburg/NA/R1
Zombotti/Magnolia/NA/R1


138 Ranked
1. Hall/Oak Glen/State Champion/R1
2. Freeman/Point Pleasant/3rd in the state/R4
3. Kuhn/North Marion/NA/R1
4. Hogsed/South Harrison/NA/R2
5. Rhodes/Roane County/NA/R2
6. Dudley/Nicholas County/NA/R3
7. Pattison/Keyser/NA/R1
8. Deem/Williamstown/5th in state/R4


138 Pack
Adams/Magnolia/NA/R1
Amos/Wirt County/NA/R4
Baird/Madonna/NA/R1
Bayni/RCB/NA/R2
Burdette/Sissonville/NA/R4
Courtney/Bridgeport/STQ/R2
Childers,G/Liberty Harrison/STQ/R2
Ellis/Shady Spring/NA/R3
Hardman/Ritchie County/NA/R1
Hoskinson/Fairmont Senior/NA/R1
Landis/Petersburg/NA/R1
Menas/Ravenswood/NA/R4
Messinger/Lincoln County/NA/R4
McCray/Sissonville/NA/R4
Nelson/Lincoln/NA/R2
Riggleman/Berkeley Springs/NA/R1
Roat/Clay/NA/R2
Rhodes/St. Mary’s/NA/R1
Roat/Clay/NA/R2
Selvey/Fayetteville/NA/R3
Spurlock/Independence/NA/R3
Timmons/Tyler Consolidated/NA/R1
Whipkey/Wirt County/NA/R4
White/Greenbrier West/NA/R3

145 Ranked
1. Lusher/Independence/State runner up/R3
2. Cook/Madonna/State Champion/R1
3. Zimmerman/Berkeley Springs/5th in state/R1
4. Creese/Oak Glen/NA/R1
5. Somerville/Williamstown/STQ/R4
6. Gibson/Bridgeport/5th in state/R2
7. Helms/Weir/NA/R1
8. Hunt/Wahama/STQ/R4
9.


145 Pack
Adams/Logan/NA/R4
Bailey/Hoover/NA/R3
Browning/Man/NA/R4
Clayton/Moorefield/NA/R2
Dingess/Ritchie County/NA/R1
Howes/Lincoln/NA/R2
Jones/Doddridge/NA/R2
Lockhart/Wirt County/NA/R4
Manzo/Fairmont Senior/NA/R1
Menas/Ravenswood/NA/R4
McNeeley/Keyser/NA/R1
Moore/Lincoln/NA/R2
Moss/Sissonville/NA/R4
Murphy/Liberty Harrison/STQ/R2
Oliver/Point Pleasant/NA/R4
Perez/Petersburg/NA/R1
Phillips/Clay/NA/R2
Postlewait/East Fairmont/NA/R1
Rodriquez/Ravenswood/NA/R4
Sedlock/Fayetteville/STQ/R3
Shrewsberry/Shady Spring/NA/R3
Stillwagoner/Magnolia/NA/R1
Thompson/Berkeley Springs/NA/R1
Wetzel/Moorefield/STQ/R2
Willhelm/Greenbrier West/NA/R3
Williams/North Marion/NA/R1
Wilson/Point Pleasant/STQ/R4

152 Ranked
1. Ward/Winfield/State Champion/R4
2. Thomas/East Fairmont/4th in state/R1
3. Trigg/Bluefield/5th in the state/R3
4. Kiszka/Frankfort/STQ/R1
5. Williams/Grafton/STQ/R2
6. Adams/Independence/NA/R3
7. Triplett/Braxton County/STQ/R2
8. Parkes/Greenbrier West/NA/R3
9. Samson/Point Pleasant/STQ/R4
10.Mason/Keyser/NA/R1


152 Pack
Black/Roane/NA/R2
Boron/St. Mary’s/NA/R1
Britton/Sissonville/NA/R4
Byrd/Notre Dame/NA/R2
Carmichael/Cameron/NA/R1
Clark/Ravenswood/NA/R4
Cross/Fairmont Senior/NA/R1
Cruickshanks/Clay/NA/R2
Davis/St. Mary’s/NA/R1
Dexter/Hoover/NA/R3
Gibson/Oak Glen/NA/R1
Hostuttler/Weir/NA/R1
Knight/Doddridge/NA/R2
Mitchell/Magnolia/NA/R1
Moore/Lincoln/NA/R2
Parsons/Lincoln/NA/R2
Payne/RC Byrd/NA/R2
Popichak/Bridgeport/NA/R2
Procacina/Ritchie County/NA/R1
Smith Oak Glen/NA/R1
Stoots/Liberty Raleigh/6th in state/R3
Shaw/Berkeley Springs/NA/R1
Tanner/Ravenswood/NA/R4
Testerman/Shady Spring/STQ/R3
Todd/Madonna/NA/R1
Watson/Point Pleasant/NA/R4
Wright/Moorefield/NA/R2

160 Ranked
1. Whiting/Roane County/3rd in the state/R2
2. Cruickshanks, J./Clay/NA/R2
3. Cox/Greenbrier West/5th in state/R3
4. Gibson/Bridgeport/STQ/R2
5. Dobbs/Cameron/NA/R1
6. Pullens/Fayetteville/STQ/R3
7. Toms/Shady Spring/NA/R3
8. Thompson/Berkeley Springs/STQ/R1
9. Paletti/Braxton County/NA/R2

160 Pack
Auxier/Clay/NA/R2
Boron/St. Mary’s/NA/R1
Cernuto/Independence/NA/R3
Crabtree/Lincoln/NA/R2
Daniels/Madonna/NA/R1
Freeman/Lewis County/NA/R2
George/Phillip Barbour/STQ/R2
Gibson/Oak Glen/NA/R1
Hall/Hoover/NA/R3
Hart/Independence/NA/R3
Hood/Ravenswood/NA/R4
Kovacs/Ritchie County/NA/R1
Kyer/Sissonville/NA/R4
Lockhart/Wirt County/NA/R4
McCoy/Paden City/NA/R1
Postlethwait/East Fairmont/STQ/R1
Powell/Keyser/NA/R1
Robinson/Notre Dane/NA/R2
Reed/Oak Glen/NA/R1
Richards/Wirt County/NA/R4
Southall/Point Pleasant/STQ/R4
Stoneman/Williamstown/STQ/R4
Tanner/Ravenswood/NA/R4
Wagnor/Wirt County/NA/R4
Massie/Grafton/NA/R2
West/St. Mary’s/NA/R1
Wetzel/Moorefield/NA/R2
Wills/Weir/NA/R1
Wilshire/Oak Hill/NA/R3


170 Ranked
1. Van Meter/Moorefield/3rd in state/R2
2. Williams/Braxton County/4th in state/R2
3. Kee/Hoover/STQ/R3
4. Truman/Oak Hill/NA/R3
5. McCune/Calhoun/STQ/R4
6. Dorsey/Greenbrier West/6th in state/R3
7. Bush/Cameron/NA/R1
8. Wojciechowicz/Bridgeport/NA/R2


170 Pack
Abbas/Point Pleasant/NA/R4
Bradley/Lincoln/NA/R2
Chapman/Shady Spring/NA/R3
Coleman/East Fairmont/NA/R1
Connolly/Point Pleasant/NA/R4
D’Amico/Weir/NA/R1
Henrich/Oak Glen/NA/R1
Hissam/East Fairmont/NA/R1
Hogsed/South Harrison/NA/R2
Hughurt/Sissonville/NA/R4
Lane/Ravenswood/NA/R4
Larew/Grafton/NA/R2
Lyons/Keyser/NA/R1
McNeally/Logan/NA/R4
Nichols/Tyler Consolidated/NA/R1
Proffitt/Lincoln/NA/R2
Reeder/Wirt County/NA/R4
Rush/Magnolia/NA/R1
Scott/Fairmont Senior/NA/R1
Simms/Wirt County/NA/R4
Weikart/St. Mary’s/NA/R1
West/St. Mary’s/NA/R1
Wilson/Fayetteville/STQ/R3




182 Ranked
1. Kotsko/East Fairmont/3rd in state/R1
2. Stamm//South Harrison/6th in state/R2
3. Fox/Keyser/NA/R1
4. Conley/Braxton County/STQ/R2
5. Paxton/Hoover/NA/R3
6. Kessler/Greenbrier West/STQ/R3
7. Stearns/Liberty Harrison/STQ/R2
8. Marquez/Point Pleasant/STQ/R4
9. Conaway/North Marion/STQ/R1
10.

182 Pack
Adams/ Oak Glen/NA/R1
Anderson/Fairmont Senior/NA/R1
Beaver/Paden City/NA/R1
Bunner/Ritchie County/NA/R1
Demotto/Bridgeport/NA/R2
Dye/Shady Spring/NA/R3
Grayam/Hoover/NA/R3
Griffen/Wirt County/NA/R4
Hovermale/Lincoln/STQ/R2
Martin/Independence/NA/R3
Mayle/Grafton/NA/R2
Moore/Ravenswood/NA/R4
Perkins/Clay/NA/R2
Plumley/Man/NA/R4
Proffit/Lincoln/NA/R2
Snodgrass/St. Mary’s/NA/R1
Stillwagoner,J/Magnolia/NA/R1
Trent/Point Pleasant/NA/R4
Walters/Weir/NA/R1



195 Ranked
1. Cook/Madonna/3rd in state
2. Kump/Independence/3rd in state/R3
3. Patterson/Greenbrier West/STQ/R3
4. Burgess/Petersburg/5th in the state/R1
5. Kuhn/Lewis County/STQ/R2
6. Leggett/Ritchie County/NA/R1
7. Atkinson/Hoover/NA/R3
8. Mcfee/Wirt County/STQ/R4
9. Nicholson/Notre Dame/NA/R2
10.Meador/Braxton County/STQ/R2



195 Pack
Ball/Point Pleasant/NA/R4
Bidwell/Magnolia/NA/R1
Boley/St. Mary’s/NA/R1
Bowles/Sissonville/NA/R4
Epperhart/Logan/NA/R4
Johnson/Tyler Consolidated/NA/R1
Kephart/Keyser/NA/R1
McCall/Shady Spring/NA/R3
Murphy/Bridgeport/NA/R2
Neal/Clay/NA/R2
O’Conner/Oak Glen/NA/R1
Patterson/Ravenswood/NA/R4
Reynolds/Poca/NA/R4
Rivas/Lincoln/NA/R2
Stillwagoner,C/Magnolia/NA/R1

220 Ranked
1. Summers/Bridgeport/5th in the state/R2
2. Morral/Petersburg/3rd in the state/R1
3. Shamblin/Sissonville/STQ/R4
4. Brown/Greenbrier West/STQ/R3
5. Heston/Fairmont Senior/NA//R1
6. Hayes/Liberty Harrison/NA/R2
7. Spencer/Hoover/STQ/R3
8. Serevicz/Wahama/STQ/R4

220 Pack
Casto/Clay/STQ/R2
Cross/Paden City/NA/R1
Dean/Lewis County/NA/R2
Ellis/Shady Spring/NA/R3
Evans/Oak Hill/NA//R3
Gerau/East Fairmont/STQ/R1
Honaker/Fayetteville/NA/R3
Kesterdan/Greenbrier West/NA/R3
Lane/Ravenswood/NA/R4
LaAsmar/Notre Dame/NA/R2
Leach/Lincoln County/NA/R4
Leasure/Tyler Consolidated/NA/R1
Pumphrey/South Harrison/STQ/R2
Simms/Wirt County/NA/R4
Stanley/Point Pleasant/NA/R4
Watts/Keyser/NA/R1
White/RCB/NA/R2

285 Ranked
1. Frazier/Fairmont Senior/State champion/R1
2. Brown/Greenbrier West/NA/R3
3. Isom/Independence/6th in the state/R3
4. Williams/Grafton/NA/R2
5. Ratliff/Keyser/NA/R1
6. Muncie/Point Pleasant/STQ/R4
7. Wilfong/North Marion/NA/R1
8. Hamrick/Magnolia/STQ/R1
9. Frampton/Nitro/NA/R4

285 Pack
Adkins/Clay/NA/R2
Alvaro/Notre Dame/NA/R2
Anderson/Tyler Consolidated/NA/R1
Atkins/Sissonville/NA/R4
Cain/Wirt County/NA/R4
Campbell/Fairmont Senior/NA/R1
Church/Lewis County/NA/R2
Crews/Petersburg/NA/R1
English/Oak Glen/NA/R1
Graham/Ravenswood/NA/R4
Green/Fairmont Senior/NA/R1
May/Braxton County/STQ/R2
Meador/Braxton County/STQ/R2
Mileto/Logan/STQ/R4
Moses/Point Pleasant/NA/R4
Morgan/Shady Spring/NA/R3
Norman/St. Mary’s/NA/R1
Ogden/East Fairmont/NA/R1
Blankenship/Poca/NA/R4
Price/Pikeview/NA/R3
Rollyson/Hoover/NA/R3
Smith/Roane/STQ/R2
Wamsley/Liberty Harrison/NA/R2

[WIfan]

I love the rankings! A lot of hard work to put them together!

Question: is there a way to add what year in school each wrestler is?

[Bearhugger]

I love the rankings! A lot of hard work to put them together!

Question: is there a way to add what year in school each wrestler is?

That is a great idea that has been around for awhile now. I will start working on adding the school year to the ranked wrestlers first. As for the Pack, that hopefully will come in time.

[aacoach117]

@170 it appears that Hughart from Sissonville defeated Kee from Herbert Hoover at Pat Vance http://www.wvmat.com/scores/19scores/0105patv.pdf

[Bearhugger]

@170 it appears that Hughart from Sissonville defeated Kee from Herbert Hoover at Pat Vance http://www.wvmat.com/scores/19scores/0105patv.pdf

The day after the Pat Vance, I heard about some of the events. The word I received was that Kee accidently slammed Hughart. Hughurt wanted to continue but wasn't permitted. Hughart was declared the winner.

I do not know how this would be viewed for future seeding criteria. Maybe a coach, an official or a tournament director can comment on how this is actually viewed when seeding.

I did see that Kee was seeded higher than Hughart at the WSAZ.

For the rankings I compile, I elected not to view a DQ as a reason to drop a wrestler in the rankings.

[1LCHSdad]

Mitchell from Lewis Co has a pin over Long from Braxton. And he is a freshman if your wanting years

[mscoach64]

at 220 Casto (Clay) pinned Hayes (LH) at Hardwood Duals

[JustSomeone]

@170 it appears that Hughart from Sissonville defeated Kee from Herbert Hoover at Pat Vance http://www.wvmat.com/scores/19scores/0105patv.pdf

The day after the Pat Vance, I heard about some of the events. The word I received was that Kee accidently slammed Hughart. Hughurt wanted to continue but wasn't permitted. Hughart was declared the winner.

I do not know how this would be viewed for future seeding criteria. Maybe a coach, an official or a tournament director can comment on how this is actually viewed when seeding.

I did see that Kee was seeded higher than Hughart at the WSAZ.

For the rankings I compile, I elected not to view a DQ as a reason to drop a wrestler in the rankings.

Unfortunately, accidental slams are still slams. Hughart over Kee would be the head to head result for seeding. Depending on the score at the time and match time, you might see arguments to not hold it against Kee. For example, if there were 30 seconds left in the match and Kee was up by 10 (i was not in attendance, purely hypothetical), i would argue it should not be held against Kee. However, for seeding, technically the head to head favors Hughart.

[mscoach64]

Summers of Bridgeport beat Casto of Clay 5-4 in ride time with an escape

[Bearhugger]

Summers of Bridgeport beat Casto of Clay 5-4 in ride time with an escape

Was this at the Mountaineer Match up?

[Geoswaff]

Yes

[mscoach64]

A ref just robbed Logan Conley of Braxton in a match against Stearns of LH. Conley was awarded a takedown, then changed to an escape at the end. Then, in OT Conley had a takedown and was not awarded. Then, he gives Stearns 2 when he never covered at the end. Stearns is a great wrestler, but Conley was robbed in that match.

[wrestlingfan23202]

I agree with the other two statements but at the end Stearns most def had two. He was behind and the other kids hand was on the mat that’s TWO

[wrestlingfan23202]

Secondly never let the call come to an officials call take care of business before it gets there

[mscoach64]

That's an easy thing to say, but Conley and Stearns are both too good and a refs call can definitely make a difference.

And, I have no idea what you seen to think that was a 2 at the end. Maybe you had a better angle than I had

[mscoach64]

Another example was the may-Hayes stall call to give Hayes the 3-2 decision at the end. Maybe Sturgis wasn't working offense as he was shoving Hayes out of bounds.

[wrestlingfan23202]

He was stalling LOL. It def was two at the end. Quit making excuses and blaming the ref

[wrestlingfan23202]

If may won you wouldn’t be crying

[mscoach64]

If may won you wouldn’t be crying

I'm not crying or care who won. However, both calls were horrible.

[wrestlingfan23202]

They were close to correct. Judgement call. Heath did an outstanding job. People need to respect officials more you cant do their job

[mscoach64]

That non call pass interference just cost the Saints a trip to the Super Bowl

[MatMom0925]

Officials are human just like the rest of us. Sometimes they don’t see what we see due to the angle and position the wrestlers are in. As spectators we tend to get frustrated when our team and especially our kid does not get points they deserve or “unfair” calls that are made. Become an official so you will be able to make those calls and see what they see.

[mscoach64]

Officials are human just like the rest of us. Sometimes they don’t see what we see due to the angle and position the wrestlers are in. As spectators we tend to get frustrated when our team and especially our kid does not get points they deserve or “unfair” calls that are made. Become an official so you will be able to make those calls and see what they see.

tell that to Saints fans (obvious pass interference) or Chiefs fans (roughing the passer on 3rd down).

I never said anything disparaging about this particular referee. I never put his name out there and I never said it was intentional. Fact is the ref cost these kids the matches this weekend. I am not seeing what I want to see because I am not from either one of the schools involved in the match(es).

The human officials chose to do this job. Just like human coaches. I do not see many parents saying, "just become a coach" or "the coach sees it differently than us parents see it." We chose to coach and we chose to referee. Therefore, we put the X on our own backs to be criticized.

So, I am going to criticize the call. I am not criticizing the person. It was horrible.

[Bearhugger]

Officials are human just like the rest of us. Sometimes they don’t see what we see due to the angle and position the wrestlers are in. As spectators we tend to get frustrated when our team and especially our kid does not get points they deserve or “unfair” calls that are made. Become an official so you will be able to make those calls and see what they see.

tell that to Saints fans (obvious pass interference) or Chiefs fans (roughing the passer on 3rd down).

I never said anything disparaging about this particular referee. I never put his name out there and I never said it was intentional. Fact is the ref cost these kids the matches this weekend. I am not seeing what I want to see because I am not from either one of the schools involved in the match(es).

The human officials chose to do this job. Just like human coaches. I do not see many parents saying, "just become a coach" or "the coach sees it differently than us parents see it." We chose to coach and we chose to referee. Therefore, we put the X on our own backs to be criticized.

So, I am going to criticize the call. I am not criticizing the person. It was horrible.

I understand how all of you feel. I choose to talk about many topics that many people want to ignore or simply cannot come up with any creative solutions to. This in return puts an "X" on my back.

It is obvious to me that when the "people doing the job" are given a suggestion to improve a problem (backed up with facts), the problem is ignored, the supporting facts are ignored and the response is "why don't you do the job?" Thus, the problem continues and grows from season to season.